I think everything is going according to plan. So I wouldn't tell you that - I wouldn't say that everything is not happening according to plan, you know. So everything that happens, all of the hurdles and the potholes or whatnot, are all necessary for the long-term goal, you see what I'm saying. If you look it up, it's a term of considerably 10 years, you know what I'm saying, where you thinking long-term. And the Longterm 4 should be my last album.ĪB-SOUL: The title alone speaks for itself: Longterm. And you know, my series I guess that you're talking about would be Longterm.ĪB-SOUL: And Longterm is my series that I came up with when I first decided to become an artist. KELLEY: Is that all a bad feeling, or is there any good feeling about the plan not progressing the way that you thought it would?ĪB-SOUL: Oh no, I mean, I'm enjoying every step. KELLEY: But Control System was not part of your trilogy and this feels even further removed from the plan. KELLEY: To me, the album is very like - so we've spoken to a lot of the guys that you work with and everybody seems to have a plan, like a three-album plan. Then I guess I would say "too many" cause it might be a couple, a few deceivers in my presence, but for the most part, you know, I've had the opportunity to move around with guys that I've grew up with from the sandbox, pretty much. But what do you also say on the album? You don't even have that many haters?ĪB-SOUL: Well, yeah, just in terms - that line was just in terms of my circle of friends.ĪB-SOUL: In my circle of friends, you know, we'd be here without a doubt. I'm not gonna say that's impossible, but it's very highly unlikely that you please everybody. I think that's what also makes it so cool, so fun, you know what I mean? It's subjective. KELLEY: But mostly, you know, hip-hop, R&B, quote unquote urban.ĪB-SOUL: Got you. KELLEY: Well, I think that's part of the debate right now. I mean, it's pretty shocking that somebody would go at him and not think that everybody would know exactly who he was messing with. And I know he's on Twitter a lot right now talking about black radio and everything. KELLEY: That's the second time today that Chuck D has come up. I'm sure I'll catch Rakim slipping one day though, for sure. His son actually called into a radio - I forgot which radio station I was at but he called in while I was doing the interview and it was dope. Who was the one said that hip-hop was like the black CNN? It's just these things - like a lot of the early artists, you know, Rakim, you know he called himself the God, then, and so we hear it now and I think a lot of people of my generation might think that this is new, you get what I'm saying? So I mean, I just try to, you know, I'm just trying to restore the feeling.ĪB-SOUL: No, I haven't met Rakim personally, but I met his son. I just want to kick that back if I can.ĪB-SOUL: I won't even be cliche and say, like, Jay Z and Nas, I'll take you to like even KRS-One, you know, hip-hop intelligent movement, that type of thing. A lot of my favorite artists embody that so I try to give that back, you know what I mean? That's what I got from hip-hop. KELLEY: What were you doing with that extra time?ĪB-SOUL: Just cleaning everything up, expounding a bit, elaborating.ĪB-SOUL: Yeah. You know, I had turned it in at the top of the year, so this extra time just gave me extra time to, you know, seal the deal, you feel me? KELLEY: Do you feel like you did what you wanted to do with it?ĪB-SOUL: Absolutely, absolutely. KELLEY: It's a lot to talk about on that album.ĪB-SOUL: Yeah, yeah. You got These Days, though, so we here.ĪB-SOUL: We are here. I stay quiet because I'm like, "What's the point?" But you have a lot to talk about I think. You gotta have something to talk about.ĪB-SOUL: You gotta have something to talk about. I was like, "Could we get you up here tomorrow?"ĪB-SOUL: Word. I wanted to make it happen right then and there. MUHAMMAD: And we talked about you coming here. It was your birthday.ĪB-SOUL: Oh yeah! Exactly, yeah. Live in Concert First Listen Live: ScHoolboy Q, 'Oxymoron'
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